Poor Star Phoenix - ask a question, get a 200
page legal document on every known aspect of
fancels and a debatable bitch-fest. O.o Most of
the replies here are pretty redundant and
moreover, beside the point of the original query.
But I'd like to throw in my two cents, for what
it's worth, both as a fellow studio production
cel collector, a fancel artist *AND* as someone
who has had fancels made of their production cels
and one entire website copy-cat-ed (three times
plagarised no less O.o).
Please be advised, these are my own thoughts on
the matter, nothing more. They are not facts nor
laws. You wanna flame me for what my brain churns
out, peachy keen.
Okay! Since Star Phoenix only wanted to hear
*opinions* on how we would *feel* regarding
seeing a fancel made of a studio cel we already
purchased, my personal response would be: yes. It
was not always so, but circumstances have since
soured me towards the idea.
And I would be upset for several reasons. As a
cel collector: I spent money to own a unique and
one-of-kind piece of animation history. I took
time to scan it, and place it proudly in an
online personal gallery to show it off - a
gallery that states clearly "do not remove the
scans without permission".
Yes, in the end, it IS about money. When you need
it, sell it. If you want it, buy it. Money makes
the world go round. It's not the only thing that
makes the world go round, but it helps. -_-
I think money is also the biggest reason because
you don't see too many people getting this gun-ho
for any other form of fanart - like watercolor or
CG fanarts. They're sold on eBay, too, but it
only seems that fancels get this many people in a
twitter.
But as Drac pointed out, it is also about common
courtesy and treating each other with decency and
respect. If you know someone owns the real studio
cel, or even if you suspect someone might, you
should ask first. Why risk pissing someone off?
There's thousands of images you could copy (or
hell, here's a thought - draw your own!) it won't
kill you to hear a cel owner say "no".
If you post here, or even occassionally visit,
you know who collects what, which person won
which auction, and who might have a certain cel
in their gallery. If you have time to post a
message in this forum, then you have time to even
just ASK around first.
It's not about LEGAL copyright laws. There's no
question we're all breaking the law there, no
matter what country you live in. Shoot, if you
use an artbook scan for a graphic layout for a
personal website or blog, that's infringement of
the studio/artists copyrights. If I used a quote
from a book or poem for a character shrine,
that's infringing on the author's copyright. If I
directly copied dialogue, scenes, and characters
to use in one of my fanfiction stories, that's
plagarism. There's no shades of grey here; those
are black-and-white facts.
But we're talking about personal opinions here,
not legalities. And as with any hobby in which
groups of induviduals come together, I think the
golden rule is common courtesy, showing respect
and having manners. If you can't say something
nice, don't say anything at all. Or rather, if
you can't paint something new, don't paint
anything at all, so to speak. ^.~
As a fan artist: I'd also be upset because
seriously, WHY make a direct FAKE copy of an
already existing REAL cel and try to pass
yourself off as an "artist". Puh-leeze. I agree
with Yann here in that there is no originality
nor creativity in TRACING. Painting a fancel
based off a direct image is nothing more than a
child's paint-by-number. I know. I paint them
too. That may make me a walking contridiction,
but that's what I think.
And just so I don't come off that horrid myself,
here is a fan art sketch I plan on painting onto
a cel. It is FAN art of Olba and Shagia Frost
from "Gundam X" I drew a few months back at work.
I did not trace it.
"After War GX" is owned by Shinji Takamatsu,
Sotsu Agency, Sunrise and TV Asahi. Character
designs are copyrighted to their original
artists. All rights reserved to them, not me.
What do I own? The piece of paper the sketch is
drawn on, and the original idea of the concept
art. I don't own Olba nor Shagia Frost - just the
lines that formed them on that particular piece
of paper. ^^;
This is all FAN works. Fan art, fan fiction, fan
hobby - this is all meant to be fun! To show our
love and appreciation of an already exisiting
object or idea that belongs to someone else.
Now I'm done. I think. Ugh. Thanks for reading
this, and hopefully I don't sound that retarded
or redundant O.o
~ keeper
who tried her best to keep a civil tongue in her
head... O.o |