A. This is confusing but I don't get the 
attitudes because everything is so ambigous. If 
the amount was wrong, who is to say it was not a 
typo OR if said he/she did not purchase more? 
Like I said, it's debateble and I don't get why 
the attitudes are just assuming things without an 
explanation. So saying 'liar' seems a bit harsh 
at this point.

B. By just looking at the frst post by said 
poster, he/she was asking postees for advice on 
what to do about getting copies in which poster 
said that the items were copies. Unless the 
poster is an idiot, which is also debateble, I 
think anyone that is not blind can tell a copy 
when it's right smack there and not some pixels 
on a screen. So all of the comments asking for 
the auction, granted that people would like to 
know for many reasons, is not necessary. Why?

C. Poster wanted adivce on what to do wbout it 
and not advice on if the copies were copies. It 
would have been easy enough for people to 
say 'get in contact with so-so'. When the posts 
came that got a little off topic, I think it just 
got a little nutty. And flames spread like 
nothing else. Maybe poster was ashmaed or maybe 
had plotted lying about amount or plotted to sell 
onto Ebay. Nobody knows without confirmation and 
yet people are stating such things as fact 
without said knowledge and being ignorant.

D. For Mandarake defense, I did not see when the 
poster said Mandarake was a bad business or even 
whined about it. Whining to me and saying it's a 
bad business is roughly like...

"Everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just 
got jipped from Mandarake, you know, that website 
at () and I hate them!!! They stole my money and 
sent me copies. Holy cow, can you believe a 
website would do such a thing!!!!! HOW AWFUL! 
They are evil!"

The first post COULD have been a great deal 
better but when someone is angry usually words 
fail, even typed ones.

E. I won't touch anything more, and especially 
not the post done by the 'friend'. That's just a 
bunch of flames and I don't want to be burnt. I 
don't understand why the poster has not posted to 
say anything in response to anything but there is 
nothing that can be done about that and so we 
won't get the facts until then.

F. I didn't mean this to be so long but just for 
closing thoughts on stuff:

1. Any business can have good and bad points and 
it's up to individual to use them. I have ehard 
bad things about Mandarake, Ebay, TJ, numerous 
deputy services and it's all the same; it's 
buyer's choice.

2. Credit cards will **usually** not work with 
most international affairs. I say this because I 
use both VISA and MasterCard and on different 
accounts they would not step into the situation. 
So it is, in my opinion, best to wortk with the 
company and know the exchange and return. If 
there is none listed then that is a bit peculiar 
and reason enough to avoid a purchase. Even 
Paypal is getting iffy on certain things anymore.

3. I am glad the poster was able to handle the 
situation because this just goes to show the 
credibility of the Mandarake business.

4. Going back to all the flames now, the only 
thing I even want to really touch just a little 
is the basis of the 'cel collecting is dying out' 
belief because with the flames on all parties, I 
can see how new people would question the said 
hobby if they would want it to be for social 
reasons. Still, all the flame type posts are 
uncalled for and make me twitch.

I decided to *nli* just because it seems there's 
some threatening on the part of whom is whom 
and 'knows so-so's RS gallery' and I for one 
don't wish to have my gallery and website 
assaulted in whatever way the threats are geared 
to.

Sorry about the length, I am snowed into my home 
and had the extra time.