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Re: Re: Re: Re: For the Record...Espcially for DBZ collectors (Tue Dec 21 23:54:44 1999
) Drac of the Sharp Smiles drac@tp.net |
There's one big thing that everyone's forgetting here when talking about the price of cels. Animation cels of any kind *NEVER* exist on a primary market. They have no standard retail value that can be referred to. They start on the "secondary" or "collectors" market - which is a VERY unforgiving place where prices are concerned. Usually what something will go for on the collector's market involves "how much can people pay for it"? Obviously there are some dealers who are better and worse about this - people who will sell something at a good price while still making a profit vs people who will ream you. There is nothing more wrong with the person who buys from an online dealer to resell than there is with the original online dealer who bought from Japan to resell. The only thing that happens is that now you're paying two markups, the first dealer's and second dealer's. I agree that a middleman, who comes in and snaps up everything good from an update just to resell it, is a pain in the @$$ and is doing *ZERO* to help his fellow collectors. But that person is still only doing (on a more local level) what the original dealer has already done. On the plus side, *WE* (meaning collectors) control the prices on the secondary market. We are the ones who decide how much we pay for the cels. Each ultra-expensive cel that you buy saying "I know it's too much, but I just have to have this" - that is what will drive up the prices. The collectors need to be willing to let expensive dealers sit on their cels until they're forced to lower the price. If the cels sell at the higher price, then that is their worth to collectors and, hence, their fair value on the secondary market. With that in mind, will our avoiding the pricy, in-it-for- huge-profit dealers make them go away? No. The collector's market for cels is plenty big enough that pricy dealers will still find buyers who don't care how much they're spending. This is unfortunate, but is still only to be blamed on the secondary market. But the more collectors who refuse to go to the expensive dealers, the fewer of those dealers there will be - and the fewer the better. Myself, I do my best to stick to the good dealers. I admit allowing myself to be reamed once or twice for something really special, but I've also passed over countless cels that I would have loved to have after I determined they were being sold at too high a profit. If we all try to be conscious of this, the prices will stay low. . . But I warn you, anime cels are *NOT* selling at their cap!! This means they are generally selling for much less than sellers could get for them given a large enough number of potential buyers - and Ebay proves it. We're all walking a very thin line trying to get what we like and at the same time keep our hobby from becoming outrageously expensive (like, oh, *AMERICAN* cels?). So my final word is essentially the cel version of what I've told every Beanie Baby collector who's told me about their "*AWESOME* new beanie, can I guess how much it's worth?" Cels are worth about $2.50 each in plastic and paint. :) Now excuse me. . . I have to go pay Yann half this week's paycheck for that awesome Larva cel he put in the last update. ;) Happy collecting! :) Many Sharp Smiles, --Drac (who does want to be misunderstood! Yann is a *good* dealer. :) |
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