"What exactly is it that you have an issue about?"

 I was only asking what people's thoughts were on 
fancels that replicate the real thing. 

"Implying that a fan artist is anymore guilty of 
copyright infringement than someone who takes 
artbook scans, pastes them on t-shirts and then 
sells them for incredible mark-up, is rather 
ludicrous. I know for fact that there are a ton 
of those on ebay. There are also, as you say, a 
boatload of bootleg DVDs, as well as Taiwanese 
CDs, bootleg posters, scrolls and various and 
sundry."

I have no problems with fan artists at all. I 
have problems with people who like to make money 
off from someone else's work. As I've seen most 
fanartists sell their art through their website 
not ebay. 

"If you're going to point the finger, why 
exclusively implicate fanartists? I get the 
feeling that this has less to do with concern for 
the legality of it all than with a sense of being 
threatened. I'm sorry, but personally I'm not 
impressed with how much people pay for cels. 
That's a personal choice on the part of the buyer 
and something they have to deal with, not an 
exclusive right to 'lord it over' everyone else."

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone. My post 
had to do purely with the effect bootleg cels 
might have on real production cels currentely or 
in the future. 

"Animation belongs to everyone that sees it, if 
it touches you deeply, if it excites you, then it 
is a natural human reaction to want a memento. Of 
course there is going to be a higher 
concentration of people that connect with 
particular moments and scenes. Given the highly 
collectible nature of cels, it would be 
impossible for everyone that wanted one to have 
an original."

Animation doesn't belong to everyone, it belongs 
to whoever created it. Also just because someone 
can't afford something, doesn't give them a right 
to own a bootleg of it. (That statement is 
general and doesn't apply to fancels only)  Again 
let me stress as you've totally missed my point 
and are jumping to conclusions, ranting if you 
may, I support anyone who makes a fan cel, just 
your logic is very wrong.

"Fancels make it possible for anyone to have a 
particular moment they love. I refuse to see 
anything wrong with that. The owners of the 
original cels still have something no one else 
does. The original, the work of art into which 
the heart and soul of the animator was breathed. 
To begrudge others a mere shadow of that same 
heart and soul seems petty and greedy."

Legally there is something wrong with it, morally 
it depends on the individual. I myself would like 
to see more fan artists making original artwork 
or their own based on the anime, not exact screen 
captures, that's myself and I still don't have 
anything wrong with someone who wants to create 
an exact screen capture cel of a scene they like.

"How many times have thrifty, devoted collectors 
of a particular show been thwarted when the 
casual collector with deep pockets comes along 
and buys a wish cel 'because it was pretty.' Why 
is it wrong for someone in that situation to seek 
a reproduction? Japanese studios plainly see 
nothing wrong with it, because they regularly 
release reproductions of their own cels."

It sounds like you have a vendetta against cels 
going for a price that you can't afford. I can't 
afford a lot of things, but that doens't mean I'm 
going to go an illegal route to get what I want. 
If you want to pay for the rights to create a 
reproduction cel then so be it. Japanese 
companies create reproduction cels because they 
own the rights to the cels they are reproducing.

"Bottom line, if you're into cels to impress 
others with the rarity of your cels, if you're in 
it as an investment, then you're into cels for 
the wrong reasons. I am so tired of seeing 
tantrums over sellers pricing things down or 
generally doing anything that might hurt 
someone's chances of getting back the money on a 
cel they overpaid for in the first place. I can 
understand a desire to protect prospective buyers 
from dishonest sellers, but as with any large 
purchase, buyer beware."

I'm into cels because I like the idea of owning 
an original piece of artwork used in creating the 
anime I watch. Seeing my cels gain in value is 
something I enjoy as well. 

In conclusion so you don't misunderstand me. I 
support all fan cel artists in doing something 
unique that is just as collectable as the real 
thing. I have a problem with those who do it to 
make money and even more so for someone who tries 
to pass a fan cel off as a production cel. 
Haven't seen that happen yet. I really like fan 
cels that are original artwork for the artist and 
not a screen capture.