> It’s not just this thread, Yann. Like others 
> said, if you go into the archives, there are a 
> lot of people who have had bad experiences with 
> them, and I know many people who I talk to 
> personally who do. Think outside the box ^_^

I fear that I will have to ask you to support
your claims with some proof. Why don't you put
a link to the all so numerous complain messages
about Atomic Club ?

Because to my knowledge, all messages about
Atomic Club are exactly like yours : "They
are bad : I remember people complaing about
them in the past".

And when you go to the source, the only messages
you find are 1) People who wanted to order when
they weren't doing mail-order at all. 2) Complain
about Abdelkader who was trying to sell cels which 
he didn't had and were belonging to Atomic Club.

Naturaly, I can be mistaken and have missed whole
threads full of realy complain from people who 
actualy had problems with them. That's why I would 
be most gratefull if you can point me to those 
messages.

> without them. We shouldn’t have to model our 
> schedules around theirs for onvenience
> sometimes that’s just not possible.

Then don't buy ! A shop usualy has official
opening hours during which you can buy... what
is for sale in the shop.

If you want something special that isn't for
sale in the shop and that need a specific
person to be present, then you don't have
the choice but to find a time suitable to
both. If you can't because both are too busy
then it's the fault of nobody. It's just how
it is.

How many time do you want me to repeate that
there is some cels for sale in the shop (which
any seller can sell) but that most of the cels
are not for sale there ?!?