> What I do see is wrong and totally disgusting
> is the bondage aspect of all this.  Bondage is
> wrong;

> All you women that love these sort of cels
> showing beautiful men being handcuffed and
> tortured, sexually violated, along with pain
> and blood should be ashamed of yourselves.  

Seems pretty judgemental to me. Which is the part 
of your post that I was referring to. I hate to 
break it to you, Evil Jewess. . . There are 
people who actually **LIKE** to have things like 
that done to them. I guess in a way, that is part 
of the interest of it all for me - KNOWING that 
there are people out there who really do like 
that (in reality - done to them - not just in 
anime). Because I do NOT understand how anyone 
*could* like it.

And yet even here in my hometown, which seems so 
normal, an extremely hush-hush S&M club was just 
discovered and closed. Do I think the patrons of 
that club should be ashamed of themselves because 
they got off on being tied up? Do I think they 
lack morals because they wanted to find someone 
to give them a good spanking? NO! That is 500% 
THEIR BUSINESS. Everyone in that club was an 
adult and wanted to be there enough to have PAID 
MONEY to get in the front door. They knew what 
they were doing and knew what they wanted. So 
they prefer pain to caresses - the people of the 
world will never be homogeneous in desires.

As far as anime goes, I just assume that the two 
characters in the anime are the types that enjoy 
it. For me, that makes it fine.

Many Sharp Smiles,
--Drac