>you know what i'm tired of?  people who, through 
>ownership of a cel seem to think they 
>have 'ownership' of the related image.  not so.  
>the production company/creators retain that 
>right.  plain and simple, asking 'permission' of 
>the cel's owner would be pointless

If this is what you think, than YOU really are 
very low class, extremely low in fact, yes by 
owning a cel, do not mean the owner has the right 
to the image, but that does not mean you have the 
right to make a copy of the cel, in fact you 
don`t.

Sure you are tired of people who think through 
ownership of a cel seem to think they 
have 'ownership' of the related image, than you 
really whould not be on this forum at all, like I 
said anyone with a cel they treasure will not 
like anyone make a copy of the cel without their 
permission, I am sure most people on this forum 
has a cel they do treasure.

It is no different from selling the fan cel as 
original, since you do seem to care about others 
feelings.

>the production company/creators retain that 
>right

above is one of the reason you should not copy, 
like you said it is illegal, so why do it when 
you know it is illegal, answer that if you dare.

If this is not low class, tell me what is low 
class.

>i suppose then if you don't want 
>someone making fancels of 'your' cels (not that 
>you really have the right to object).

That does not mean you have the right to copy 
either, the owner of the cel has the right to at 
least be unhappy about it, you have no business 
by copying it in the first, low class

I honestly hate to call anyone low class, however 
when it is this low, I really can`t help myself.

In quakeking`s opinion, you will always be low 
class