I know i frequently moan but this time I am 
really angry!  It has been brought to my 
attention that images of cels I own are being 
displayed on a website without my consent.  The 
offending site is: 
http://www.blackstargoten.vze.com/

Displaying images of cels which do not belong to 
the webmasters is a substantial part of the 
site.  They do not claim to own the cels, nor do 
they have a disclaimer to say they do not own 
them.  

Why I Care?

Inevitably some may think I am petty.  By posting 
here I am prepared for that people will think 
this.  I personally think it is a violation of of 
the use of my property.  Even if intangible i 
think that the images are my property, just as 
ideas can be.  According to the Berne Convention, 
after 1989 things are automatically copyrighted.  
I put a lot of time, money and effort into my 
gallery and cel collecting and feel angry that my 
efforts are being abused.  It has really put me 
off my latest update.  Obviously i will not let 
it stop me collecting cels but it has made me 
question whether i want to display my cels online 
anymore.

After my polite requests to reason with them they 
refused to remove my images even when I rebutted 
all their arguments and ended up abusing me.  I 
must admit i was quite angry and did start to 
lose control towards the end myself :P.

My courses of action:

These are the only two i can think of since they 
have refused to take the offending images down: 

Reporting them to their webhost - Angelfire.  
Only problem is proving i own the cels to 
angelfire.  I do not want to have to send the 
cels to them so am unsure of how i can do this.

Reporting them for being underage.  After 
speaking with them it is obvious they are 
underage and go to school according to their 
webpage.  However i also have trouble 
authenticating this.

I spoke to them on MSN messenger. A copy of the 
conversation can be found by clicking the above 
URL or here: 
http://www.geocities.com/lpu97kh/MSNChat.htm 
It is repetitive nad profanity is used.
The webmasters were Son Goten & Rancid
I was Aunt Jemima & Hardsaiyan cels was 
Happybutsupidkid
My rebuttal of their non-existent defence:

These images appear all over the web.
Frequency of a crime does not detract from the 
fact it is illegal.

Their source was not my site.
Source of stolen goods does not detract from 
their crime as they are aware it is wrong.  
However i am not 100% sure of my claims to images 
made before i owned the cel.

Accusing me of not owning the cels.
I did not give them my url as they had threatened 
to hack my site.  In any case they may have just 
argued that i merely owned the images and not the 
cel.  This is another point of difficulty as I am 
not sure how i can prove i own the cels if i 
report them to their host, angelfire.

I would welcome all constructive replies whether 
you agree or disagree with me.  There are many 
points I am unsure of including my courses of 
action, any replies would be appreciated.  I 
would appreciate if everyone can post in a polite 
manner as i really would not like to create a 
flame war.

Thank you for everyone's time and sorry for such 
a long-winded post

Little Poop