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Riliezu cels- what do YOU want? (Sat Jan 17 21:06:19 2004 )
aethel [View profile ]
http://www.bishounen.com/cels/
adcastel@unity.ncsu.edu

I know there have been some threads posted on the 
forum before about rilizu threads, but I thought 
one specifically devoted to what people do and 
don't like with maybe some value estimates might 
be helpful to everyone involved.  Let me explain 
what I mean..

Here is my personal boat: I don't like production 
drawings.  Cels to me have always been half about 
the aesthetic, and half about the fact it was 
used in production.  Now every once in a long 
while a drawing that is really gorgeous will come 
along that I think is pretty enough to buy, but 
in general I like the colors and vibrance of a 
cel.  And while Riliezu cels are beautiful, and 
official, they're really a step too removed from 
production for me to want to pay the prices.  I 
consider myself a medium to high end value 
collector, the prices on rilezu cels are right 
around what the majority of the pieces in my 
collection cost, and the same type of shots or 
better.

Now it occured to me as I was looking through the 
gorgeous cels on the madoka site, I found myself 
saying: "if it was a production cel (which of 
course don't exist for these CG anime) or came 
with a production drawing, I would buy it in a 
heartbeat"  And saying this over 2 or 3 $250 
cels.. that's a pretty big purchase even for me.

Stephen replied a while back on some rilezu 
threads, so I get the impression he has some 
input on the future of these items.  And even if 
he doesn't. maybe he knows people who do.  And 
the only way we as consumers can hope to get what 
we want if we're not currently satisfied with 
what's available (as I am not) is to let the 
suppliers know what we do want, and as 
importantly, how MUCH of a sales difference does 
that make to us?

So my hope is on the off chance it might affect 
what we're supplied with from future anime, 
collectors will give the business people some 
business-decision useful information.

Here's mine:

The single cel per drawing currently being done 
is a must, if each cel wasn't truly unique I 
wouldn't be interested.

At $100+ per cel, I'm not going to buy one unless 
I -really- like it.  that said, because only high 
quality shots are chosen, usually about 1/7th of 
the cels I see for my favorite shows are ones 
that I would qualify as really liking.  

Right now, without production drawings, even the 
best $100 cels I am right at the point of 
indifference on, and anything more than that is 
almost definitely not for me.  If production 
drawings were included it would raise my 
willingness to pay back up to production cel 
level, which is to say between $150- $350 
depending on my affinity for a given shot. (And 
like in my production collections for truly 
amazing shots- pivitol moments that were drawn 
well with multiple characters from a good angel, 
pivitol pan shots, etc, I might even go higher).

The cels chosen in general are nice, but I do 
agree with some comments made that there would be 
more shots I "must have" if full costumes could 
be seen.

I really hope both to get the information out 
there, and just because I'm curious what people 
think, some other collectors will post their 
thoughts.




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